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need to come together and want consensus. you have jeb bush saying that, rubio has flipped on the issue -- jon: florida senator marco rubio. >> yes. rand paul has come out with his own proposal, he did a speech before the chamber of commerce. but this is an issue where my party can come together and actually be leaders, and i think right now the diversity in the party might be tearing it down. jon: well, okay, that was the question. you mentioned three potential presidential candidates -- [laughter] potential republican standard bearers in the next election, in 20 -- >> 2016. but it's -- jon: marco rubio -- >> yes. >> rand paul, jeb bush -- >> yes. jon: and each of them is sort of criticizing the other's immigration plan. >> and united we stand, divided we fall. 2016 is an eternity away. i understand that self-preservation is the first law of nature, but right now we need to bring our country together, and this is an issue that will maybe help jeb, rand paul or rubio gain more hispanic support when they do decide to run. jon: well, and there wasn't a lot of hispanic support the last tim
that an insurgency would rise. president bush had the courage to change that strategy in the face of a failure that we were facing. in less than two years, that success was turnaround turned around in the sense that it was 90% reduction in violence, which was very significant for achievement. at the end of the day, the major frustration we are dealing with it in 2009, the obama administration came in and changed the policy. they disengaged this and kept it at distance, and we found ourselves at the end of 2011. unlike what we have done in germany and japan and india where we kept things in place to help strengthen and secure government, and that did not take place. jon: president obama has often mentioned in speeches that was under his administration that the war in iraq ended. >> i think that he was saying it was the correct decision. what happened after the overthrow, obviously it didn't turn out the way that we expected. i think in part, it is due to a poor military strategy. but it was also an incorrect political strategy on our part. i think that we should have tried to put authority into
, this is -- part of her problem was also that she is old news in the sense that clintons and bushes alike, just ask jeb bush, these are names that people have been talking about for over 20 years. and there's a real sense out there on both sides of the aisle that it's time for a change. i also think, look, historically the idea that a presidential, that a party can hold on to the white house for three terms in a row is very, very rare, it's very difficult, and the idea that hillary clinton is the woman who can do that i find a little unlikely. i don't think barack obama's popularity transfers to her. if you watch that "60 minutes" interview with hillary clinton and barack obama, you could see why barack obama is more popular than hillary clinton as a politician, because he's a much more dynamic and engaging personality, and hillary just did not seem like she was a particularly interesting person or exciting person to listen to or follow. jon: "the washington post" is out with a poll on gay marriage that is kind of an outlier. the fox news poll and other polls taken til now have said the country is
to deal with the chinese government. i think that's the way president clinton and president george w. bush tried to do it. i know president obama has had a tough-minded approach as well. >> reporter: one positive note, published reports this morning say china last month halted its oil shipments to north korea, possibly as punishment for the north korean nuclear test of february 12th. uma? uma: well, that's something at least, james. always good to see you, thank you very much. >> reporter: thank you. jon: a major legal battle over immigration is heading to court. does arizona's governor have the right to block a key provision of president obama's immigration policy? we'll take a look at both sides of this controversial case. >>> and a wild shooting caught on tape. police are asking for the public's help. of there's a gunman outside that door those guys are trying to hold closed. the full video next. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? e carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a heal
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